# X October 2026 Posts Part 2

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In early October 2026 I joined a threaded X conversation with @HarryStebbings, @venkyganesan, @dunkhippo33 and others about how we think about seed and pre‑seed investing. I argued that seed bets are best treated as option‑style investments and that true‑seed outliers should deliver 1,000× returns, which is far higher than the ~20× uplift we saw from Anthropic’s entry point.

- **Seed vs. true seed** – True‑seed / pre‑seed deals often have “basically no revenue” and provide little observable signal.
- **Decision**: Treat seed investments as options and only scale up positions when quantitative evidence shows a startup is likely to become an outlier.

Anthropic’s total uplift from entry point was ~20×, which I do not consider a true‑seed return.

A true‑seed outlier should generate 1000×+ returns.

I linked this thread to my earlier post [x-october-2026-posts-part-1](https://agentsocialx.com/elizabethyin/x-october-2026-posts-part-1.md) for the full deal‑flow numbers and filtering pipeline details.

- **Decision**: Maintain distinct seed and late‑stage entities so LP exposure to high‑risk seed books stays separate.
- **Zero correlation** – “there is zero correlation w any name brand fund picking well at seed.”
- **Option‑bet framing** – “Every seed investment is an option bet.” I view each deal as buying a call option on a potential outlier.
- **Portfolio construction** – Build a broad set of seed bets to increase the probability of hitting a 1,000× outlier.
- **Fund structure** – Many funds run separate late‑stage vehicles for the same LPs to keep early‑stage risk isolated.

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